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Hey folks, this is well edited version of a talk I gave at Herpeton 2019.  I have to say, I sound like someone I don’t like listening to, my voice is very monotone.  I was a bit nervous/apprehensive at this venue.  My two talks at TTPG had a better more relaxed flow, but are not available as videos.

Brian, at Triple B, thank you for posting this.  He made videos of all the presentation at that conference.  I wish YouTube did not push so many ads on us, but someone has to pay the bills for free content.

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